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A lively dialogue with Ruth Haley Barton about forging and maintaining a life-giving connection with God in the midst of leading. Learn more at www.transformingcenter.org.
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Mar 23, 2022
Mar 23, 2022
51 min
This week’s temptation may bring us to the hardest, deepest places of Lent. We are talking about the temptation to be silent about our sin and the power of the practice of confession. Why are leaders especially tempted to hide our wrongdoings, and how can we use confession carefully, lovingly and honestly in our lives? Ruth and Steve use the story of the prodigal son and Psalm 32 to have an honest conversation about the importance and challenge of confession.
Lectionary Readings for the fourth Sunday of Lent, Cycle C:
Joshua 5:9-12 • Psalm 32 • 2 Corinthians 5:16-21 • Luke 15:1-3, 11b-32
Music Credit:
Kingdom Come by Aaron Niequist
Prayer for Healing from Lent Music In Solitude
Mentioned in the episode:
The Prayer Tree by Michael Leunig
Join us for a VIRTUAL Stations of the Cross service on Friday, April 15 at 12 pm CST. Details and sign up here.
Support the podcast! Patrons at the $10 level will receive a digital download of Ruth Haley Barton’s Lent: A Season of Returning. It includes Cycle C scriptures and space to journal your own thoughts and prayers. This season, $10 patrons will also receive guided spiritual practices, like the Lectio Divina and Examen, that correspond with each week’s episode. This week we will be providing a conversation about the ministry of reconciliation. Become a patron today by visiting our Patreon page!
The Transforming Center exists to create space for God to strengthen leaders and transform communities. You are invited to join our next Transforming Community:® A Two-year Spiritual Formation Experience for Leaders. Delivered in nine quarterly retreats, this practice-based learning opportunity is grounded in the conviction that the best thing you bring to leadership is your own transforming self!

Mar 16, 2022
Mar 16, 2022
34 min
This week Ruth and Steve address the temptation to invest in that which does not satisfy. So many of us leaders find ourselves turning towards escapist behaviors in our exhaustion and grief. How do we discern between what is distracting and what is satisfying? How can we abstain in order to give time to that which is most life-giving? How do we cultivate our freedom and choose our hearts' deepest desire through fasting? Ruth and Steve discuss all this and more in this episode.
Lectionary Readings for the third Sunday of Lent, Cycle C:
Isaiah 55:1-9 • Psalm 63:1-8 • 1 Corinthians 10:1-13 • Luke 13:1-9
Music Credit:
Kingdom Come by Aaron Niequist
Turn Your Eyes Upon Jesus from Lent Music In Solitude
Mentioned in the episode:
Show Me the Way by Henri Nouwen
Additional Resources:
Fasting by Scot McKnight
Fasting: Spiritual Freedom Beyond Our Appetites by Lynne Baab
Support the podcast! Patrons at the $10 level will receive a digital download of Ruth Haley Barton’s Lent: A Season of Returning. It includes Cycle C scriptures and space to journal your own thoughts and prayers. This season, $10 patrons will also receive guided spiritual practices, like the Lectio Divina and Examen, that correspond with each week’s episode. This week we will be providing a guided Examen to identify consolation and desolation. Become a patron today by visiting our Patreon page!
The Transforming Center exists to create space for God to strengthen leaders and transform communities. You are invited to join our next Transforming Community:® A Two-year Spiritual Formation Experience for Leaders. Delivered in nine quarterly retreats, this practice-based learning opportunity is grounded in the conviction that the best thing you bring to leadership is your own transforming self!

Mar 9, 2022
Mar 9, 2022
33 min
What is it about leaders that we seem to struggle so much with the temptation to take matters into our own hands and “help” God out when we distrust His plans or when we are impatient with His timing? And what is our transformational moment when we realize we’ve been pushing our own agenda and trying to take back control? This week Ruth and Steve discuss this temptation to impose our own will onto God’s will and the opportunity Lent provides to practice letting go of our own plans and surrendering to God’s will deep within.
Lectionary readings for the second Sunday of Lent, Cycle C:
Genesis 15:1-12, 17-18 • Psalm 27 • Philippians 3:17-4:1 • Luke 13:31-35 or Luke 9:28-36, (37-43a)
Music Credit:
Kingdom Come by Aaron Niequist
Prayer for Healing from Lent Music In Solitude
Mentioned in the episode:
The Human Condition by Thomas Keating
Iona Abbey Worship Book
Support the podcast! Patrons at the $10 level will receive a digital download of Ruth Haley Barton’s Lent: A Season of Returning. It includes Cycle C scriptures and space to journal your own thoughts and prayers. This season, $10 patrons will also receive guided spiritual practices, like the Lectio Divina and Examen, that correspond with each week’s episode. This week we will be providing a guided Centering Prayer. Become a patron today by visiting our Patreon page!
The Transforming Center exists to create space for God to strengthen leaders and transform communities. You are invited to join our next Transforming Community:® A Two-year Spiritual Formation Experience for Leaders. Delivered in nine quarterly retreats, this practice-based learning opportunity is grounded in the conviction that the best thing you bring to leadership is your own transforming self!

Mar 2, 2022
Mar 2, 2022
31 min
Join us for Season 15, Lent for Leaders: With God in the Wilderness. Ruth Haley Barton and Steve Weins will journey through Lent with a spirit of self-examination and desire for intimacy with God. Each episode will highlight a particular temptation found in one of the passages from Cycle C of the Revised Common Lectionary for Lent that is relevant for leaders today and Ruth and Steve will provide practices to combat those temptations.
In week one, Ruth and Steve examine the temptation of Jesus in Luke 4. How do we see these temptations to be relevant, spectacular, and powerful show up in our own lives? How can the practice of hiddenness be the antidote to this? What does it look like to fashion our own wilderness? We’ll discuss all this and more in today’s episode.
Lectionary readings for the first Sunday of Lent, Cycle C:
Deuteronomy 26:1-11 • Psalm 91:1-2, 9-16 • Romans 10:8b-13 • Luke 4:1-13
Music Credit:
Kingdom Come by Aaron Niequist
Returning from Lent Music In Solitude
Mentioned in the episode:
The Way of the Heart by Henri Nouwen
Lectio Divina for Luke 4: This week we are giving all listeners a chance to hear what happens over in our Patreon community. Please enjoy this guided Lectio Divina reading of the scripture used in this week’s episode, available to everyone on our Patreon page.
Ruth wrote a reflection for Ash Wednesday over on our Beyond Words blog.
Support the podcast! Patrons at the $10 level will receive a digital download of Ruth Haley Barton’s Lent: A Season of Returning. It includes Cycle C scriptures and space to journal your own thoughts and prayers. This season $10 patrons will also receive guided spiritual practices like Lectio Divinas and Examens that correspond with each week’s episode. Become a patron today by visiting our Patreon page!
The Transforming Center exists to create space for God to strengthen leaders and transform communities. You are invited to join our next Transforming Community:® A Two-year Spiritual Formation Experience for Leaders. Delivered in nine quarterly retreats, this practice-based learning opportunity is grounded in the conviction that the best thing you bring to leadership is your own transforming self!

Feb 23, 2022
Feb 23, 2022
14 min
Our next podcast season begins next week! Season 15 will help us walk through Lent together. Steve Weins is back with Ruth and together the two will tackle this time that invites us to self-examination and intimacy with God. In this teaser episode, Ruth and Steve will share their hearts for this season of the podcast and their hope that these conversations will help you face your own temptations and provide practices that will create space to be strengthened in the wilderness with God.
Season 15 begins Wednesday, March 2. Episodes will drop each Wednesday, reading into the following Sunday of Lent.
Mentioned in this Episode
Find all of our lent resources here.
Practicing Lent for spiritual leaders with books Ruth recommends for Lent
Guerrillas of Grace: Prayers for the Battle by Ted Loder
Music Credit:
Kingdom Come by Aaron Niequist
Turn Your Eyes Upon Jesus from Lent Music In Solitude
Support the podcast! Patrons at the $10 level will receive a digital download of Ruth Haley Barton’s Lent: A Season of Returning. It includes Cycle C scriptures and space to journal your own thoughts and prayers. This season $10 patrons will also receive guided spiritual practices like Lectio Divinas and Examens that correspond with each week’s episode. Become a patron today by visiting our Patreon page!

Feb 2, 2022
Feb 2, 2022
39 min

Jan 20, 2022
Jan 20, 2022
16 min
Please enjoy this bonus episode, a conversation between Ruth Haley Barton and Aaron Niequist, recorded at the Becoming A Transforming Church retreat. Ruth and Aaron discuss Aaron's experience as both a participant and worship leader of Transforming Communities and the ways in which worship and fixed hour of prayer contributed to his journey in community.
If you feel drawn by God to get on a new kind of journey we hope you would consider Transforming Community 18. We are still accepting applications. TC18 begins February 20-22, 2022.
Find more information about Transforming Community 18 HERE.
Music Credit:
May Your Kingdom Come by Aaron Niequist

Jan 6, 2022
Jan 6, 2022
39 min
We have a special bonus episode for you today to mark Epiphany.
We dusted off our podcasting microphones to have a conversation about Epiphany. Epiphany celebrates the coming of the Magi to the manger to visit and worship the baby Jesus. In this discussion, Ruth and members of the Transforming Center staff discuss the mystery and meaning of Jesus choosing to come to earth in such an imperfect setting, what we took from the Magi’s story and the invitation to adventure and risk that God may be giving in the new year. Ruth closes with two poems that cap off these reflections and mark the end of the Christmas season.
Mentioned in this episode:
Epiphany No. 16 by Kate Compston from Bread of Tomorrow: Prayers for the Church Year by Janet Morely
The Work of Christmas from The Mood of Christmas and Other Celebrations by Howard Thurman
Music credit:
Joy to the World from Christmastide Music in Solitude
A Light Unto My Path from Advent Music in Solitude
Interested in going further with your own spiritual transformation? We are still accepting applications for Transforming Community 18.

Dec 20, 2021
Dec 20, 2021
16 min
This season we invite you to walk through Advent by engaging with the lectionary Scripture readings and listening for what God might want to say through them. In each episode, Ruth and members of the Transforming Center staff will read and reflect on the themes of Cycle C of the Revised Common Lectionary for Advent together.
For this last episode of our Advent season, we wanted to give all our listeners an opportunity to engage with a lectionary reading through the practice of Lectio Divina. Ruth shares some thoughts on Christmas as the culmination of the Advent season and then guides listeners through a Lectio Divina reading of John 1:1-5, 14 with the help of other staff members. We invite you to listen to this in a quiet space where you can make yourself fully present to God and respond to the prompting of the Holy Spirit.
We are praying this is fruitful practice for you during this week leading up to Christmas.
Music credit:
Come Thou Long Expected Jesus from Advent Music in Solitude
Mary's Song of Praise from Advent Music in Solitude
This podcast season is designed to be a companion to this year’s updated Advent Reflections, “Come, Lord Jesus, Come: Walking Through the Advent Season Together, Year C.” The Advent Bundle includes both the softcover and digital edition of the Advent Reflections and a set of 5 corresponding Advent Liturgies to print out and pray as a family or with others. It is available now in our online store.
This month, $10 Patrons receive a weekly guided audio Lectio Divina practice with one of the passages of scripture from the Revised Common Lectionary. Become a Patron today to receive these practices.
Interested in going further with your own spiritual transformation? We are still accepting applications for Transforming Community 18.

Dec 13, 2021
Dec 13, 2021
44 min
This season we invite you to walk through Advent by engaging with the lectionary Scripture readings and listening for what God might want to say through them. In each episode, Ruth and members of the Transforming Center staff will read and reflect on the themes of Cycle C of the Revised Common Lectionary for Advent together.
In this conversation, we discussed the prayers for and of indifference and how we are personally wrestling with them, particularly as we engage with the story of Mary and Elizabeth this week. Ruth uses another one of Drew Jackson’s poems to spark conversation about God’s practice of speaking through the disgraced and marginalized members of society.
Mentioned in this episode:
God Speaks Through Wombs by Drew Jackson
For more on discernment and the Prayer of Indifference see chapter 7 of Sacred Rhythms by Ruth Haley Barton or Season 1 Episode 7 of the Strengthening the Soul of Your Leadership podcast, The Art and Practice of Spiritual Discernment.
Music credit:
Come Thou Long Expected Jesus from Advent Music in Solitude
Mary’s Song of Praise from Advent Music in Solitude
This podcast season is designed to be a companion to this year’s updated Advent Reflections, “Come, Lord Jesus, Come: Walking Through the Advent Season Together, Year C.” The Advent Bundle includes both the softcover and digital edition of the Advent Reflections and a set of 5 corresponding Advent Liturgies to print out and pray as a family or with others. It is available now in our online store.
This month, $10 Patrons receive a weekly guided audio Lectio Divina practice with one of the passages of scripture from the Revised Common Lectionary. Become a Patron today to receive these practices.
Interested in going further with your own spiritual transformation? We are still accepting applications for Transforming Community 18.